I went in looking at bikes as you do. When I talked to the guy about the bike I was looking for he had all the info I read already and more, plus other suggestions. They did not have the bike I wanted on the floor but I tested the carbon version I loved it. We talked about what we could do with a alloy one and were able to strike a deal. They even got my bike all put together that week so I could take it on a trip. Even though I was not some high end bike guy I still got the same treatment. It means a lot to me. read more